@alatiera FINALLY

@AzureKingfisher I got told the same things a lot after being abused as a teenager too. It really ignores things like power imbalances, grooming, and downright fear. It just furthers it and spreads that we're somehow responsible, excusing abusers.

@sophia @AzureKingfisher it took me only four days, but i realised this morning what, exactly rms' defense of Minsky is: victim blaming.

"the poor, bumbling Dr didn't realise that the girl he's about to have sex is not just a girl a quarter of his age, but a sex trafficking victim, because she presented herself entirely willing"

fuck you man, like, seriously, fuck you

@meena @sophia yes, it's victim blaming and makes way to abuse even more kids.

@sophia this! Sorry that happened to you. I find it empowering that survivors start to stand up to this widespread rape culture but also sad how many affected directly. I rarely get triggered by stories of others but this one hit so close to home because the victim was two years older than I have been and RMS used the same words to blame the victim.
Let's have them fear for their reputations! This has to stop.

@scops He's questioned the definition of rape and suggested victims of it are willing. 'Voluntary paedophilia' for example (a quote from his own site) doesn't exist because the power dynamics and potential for grooming are there.
He's victim blaming. I'm not going to question his potential motives to find excuses when what he's saying adds to a culture of disbelief and sexualisation of child victims.

@sophia Hm i just read what he says in another way. just because (not in sexual context) i've been also very misunderstood in the past just because i mostly argue on a very objective and unemotional way. yes, he harmed people with this type of argumenting... that's his fault imho. and yes, a man in his position must not argue like that. Anyways; is it right to shoot him down (if you would follow my argument)?

@scops I have been a victim of child sexual abuse and was faced with the very same kinds of comments he's made over time in order to play down and blame me for it. A lot of us have been. It's absolutely right he be shot down for it.

@sophia i know that these are the arguments such shitholes have - i have also friends that got abused. he should make clear whats going on in his had and he shouldnt be judged because of this short sentenses that can be interpreted in different ways.

@scops perhaps he should be more careful with what he says if he doesn't want to be judged for it.

@sophia @scops

A paraphrased quote from a woman on ​

"We understand you perfectly. That's the problem."

Bye and good riddance.

@mwlucas @scops superbly put

@sophia @mwlucas @scops
Minsky did not have sex with this girl, and more corrections:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/d5a4dz/richard_stallman_resigns_from_mit_due_to_pressure/f0l50w4/

@neb @sophia @mwlucas @scops ...RMS still publicly defended pedophilia and/or child sex trafficking. That's beyond the pale for the public face of literally any organization, except NAMBLA, I guess. This is...all pretty standard procedure.

@nev @neb @mwlucas like @sophia said; no matter what he really thinks or what he does, he had to argue in other ways if he doesn't want to be judged for it. just because other idiots could use such arguments to make terrible things.

@sophia indeed!